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Lishy · Oct 25, 2008, 10:00 PM // 22:00

For awhile I've been thinking of playing ranger.
Edge of Extinction looks sexy. And I am seeing some potential synergy with heroes, like order of pain, as well as spirit weapon heroes. And Conjure Barrage is smexy :P

Anyways, I love hero synergy and tactical play, with a variety of EFFECTIVE roles. Especially for elite areas. I mostly prefer physical damage, but not Warrior-type tanks. More like Paragons and Assassins. Although I kind of fail at interrupts. I also like when positioning and teammates come into play. I like to be strategical and spend all day making builds.

Would Ranger be for me? If so, any advice? Builds? Recommendations?
I will read the guide right after this post, but even so, I'd like if I can have some responses.

ALF71BE · Oct 25, 2008, 10:27 PM // 22:27

Everyone should have a ranger. They are sexy and teach you another perspective of gameplay.

Oh and they have D-shot.

But if you really, REALLY fail at interrupting, then stick to PvE.

As for builds, Barrage+Splinter > Conjure+Barrage, if we talk about damage here. Condition spreading, spike damage and trapping. Rangers can also do melee nicely. Thumpers, Packhunters and R/D's do decent damage and never run out of energy, and have good survivality (sp?).

They can also provide caster shutdown for more advanced PvE areas, if you like the support roll.

But choosing a ranger only because EoE doesn't sounds to me all that great. It can work nicely in fortress-like missions/situations (Eternal Grove and maybe Battle of Turai's Procession are the only I recall atm), but otherwise most nature rituals have very slow recharges and your team should be done with the mob before they make any noticeable effect.

Enjoy being one

Lishy · Oct 25, 2008, 10:39 PM // 22:39

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Originally Posted by ALF71BE

As for builds, Barrage+Splinter > Conjure+Barrage, if we talk about damage here.

What if we have heroes casting splinter and nightmare weapon on us?

Also, I mainly pve btw.

wind fire and ice · Oct 25, 2008, 11:33 PM // 23:33

-every- player should have a ranger,monk and necro or elementalist for pve,simple as that,if you dont have one make it now,and if your heroes are casting splenter on you conj. barrage is fine,i prefer running volley with BHA or somthing more useful myself,though.

Luminarus · Oct 26, 2008, 01:31 AM // 01:31

Unless ur running splinter on a rit primary, volley > barrage. BHA + Volley is best in HM. Definately a good class to run, has so many options.

Hanging Man · Oct 26, 2008, 01:39 AM // 01:39

actually ranger was my first choice when GW came out. My favorite char of all time. rangers are a great prof if you super suck at interrupts id suggest practice practice practice cuz alot of other people expect rangers to be a main source for interrupts, them and mesmers.

conjure + barrage + volley works wonders. broad head arrow is fantastic to have in any high end area. could go r/me and do Bha + epidemic, idk how well it works cause i haven't tried it but ive heard good things

all in all, rangers are a good class to play whether its pve or pvp. they do a succesful job pwning nubs in either

Moonlit Azure · Oct 26, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58

A ranger would be great for you. Rangers can fill a variety of roles very well, and have a major influence in battle.

Interrupting takes a lot of tactical skill, you need to know what your doing. If you suck at it I suggest to practice, practice, and practice some more.

upier · Oct 26, 2008, 10:55 PM // 22:55

I have a love-hate relationship with rangers.
I love them because they are tree-hugging-hippies but I hate them because nature rituals and beast mastery are so pathetic.

So I just keep one guy as my storage character.

Luminarus · Oct 26, 2008, 11:13 PM // 23:13

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Originally Posted by Hanging Man

conjure + barrage + volley works wonders. broad head arrow is fantastic to have in any high end area. could go r/me and do Bha + epidemic, idk how well it works cause i haven't tried it but ive heard good things

Why people are obsessed with barrage and volley on the same bar is beyond me. If ur gonna use barrage, dont waste a slot on volley. Volley just gives an aoe option without wasting ur elite

BHA is only really great in areas without heavy condition removal and with big baddies that need to be shut down. Its nice in HM, but I wouldnt say its great in ALL high end areas.

BHA+Epidemic+Volley isnt as great as one would expect. The aoe range of epidemic is pretty dodgy. Id rather have R/W with Save Yourselves unless theres another source of it in the team.

Rhamia Darigaz · Oct 27, 2008, 08:36 PM // 20:36

make a ranger and run cripshot.
you will feel smart and tactical for caring about things such as "positioning" and "movement control". you will also feel smart and tricksy and false for caring about things such as "action control" when you spam your interrupts. did i mention that dshot is so good that putting it on your bar automatically qualifies you as a top 50 gvg player?
overall i think rangers is a pretty cool guy. eh makes u feel smrt and doesn't afraid of anything

Luminarus · Oct 28, 2008, 05:18 AM // 05:18

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Originally Posted by Rhamia Darigaz

make a ranger and run cripshot.
you will feel smart and tactical for caring about things such as "positioning" and "movement control". you will also feel smart and tricksy and false for caring about things such as "action control" when you spam your interrupts. did i mention that dshot is so good that putting it on your bar automatically qualifies you as a top 50 gvg player?
overall i think rangers is a pretty cool guy. eh makes u feel smrt and doesn't afraid of anything

Rangers are good, and as he says being a good ranger is easy. A great ranger comes down to being able to know who to cripple, what to interupt, being able to interupt and a lot of other thinks. + d-shot is the most powerful interupt in the game.

Stranger The Ranger · Oct 28, 2008, 09:16 AM // 09:16

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Originally Posted by wind fire and ice

-every- player should have a ranger,monk and necro or elementalist for pve,simple as that,if you dont have one make it now

O rly? : O
I got a PvE Ranger, Necro, Assassin & Dervish, but my Ranger is all I ever needed tbh, the rest is AB/RA fodder xD

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Originally Posted by Rhamia Darigaz

make a ranger and run cripshot.
you will feel smart and tactical for caring about things such as "positioning" and "movement control". you will also feel smart and tricksy and false for caring about things such as "action control" when you spam your interrupts. did i mention that dshot is so good that putting it on your bar automatically qualifies you as a top 50 gvg player?
overall i think rangers is a pretty cool guy. eh makes u feel smrt and doesn't afraid of anything

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Profession: W/Mo

lulz :>
Spamming interrupts is baed though :c

Lyndka · Oct 28, 2008, 10:49 AM // 10:49

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Originally Posted by Luminarus

BHA+Epidemic+Volley isnt as great as one would expect. The aoe range of epidemic is pretty dodgy. Id rather have R/W with Save Yourselves unless theres another source of it in the team.

I've found that about Epidemic too - I occassionally play BHA + Epidemic when my Guildies bring their Rangers and I find Epidemic to be variable in its effect, though my Gwen seems to get better results with it.

If you want everyone to lay down fire - then try spirit of conflagration - it means you don't need a fiery bowstring to have it work nor be an Ele second - you can still be a Rit second and use Splinter weapon. (Don't bother cap'ing Greater Conflagration though - the only difference is ativation and recharge times)

Luminarus · Oct 28, 2008, 10:25 PM // 22:25

Doing fire damage doesnt mean anything lyndka, he still needs R/E for Conjure + Barrage, since you dont get any more damage from conflagration, unless ur in an area where u fire damage does double damage dont bother imo. + Its not worth the skill slot for something a bow string can do.

Amy Awien · Oct 29, 2008, 12:22 AM // 00:22

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Originally Posted by Lyndka

...Don't bother cap'ing Greater Conflagration though - the only difference is ativation and recharge times)

Eh? It converts all physical damage into fire damage, not just arrows.

Moonlit Azure · Oct 29, 2008, 01:20 AM // 01:20

Why waste an elite slot on that anyway?

faraaz · Oct 29, 2008, 09:34 AM // 09:34

Go go tyrian skill hunter!!

Lyndka · Oct 29, 2008, 09:38 AM // 09:38

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Originally Posted by Amy Awien

Eh? It converts all physical damage into fire damage, not just arrows.

Ahh - misread that part - forgive an 18 month player for her illiteracy and ignorance

*slaps Sousuke - "I said you were useless"*

upier · Oct 29, 2008, 02:22 PM // 14:22

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Originally Posted by Moonlit Azure

Why waste an elite slot on that anyway?

Laugh at Jagged Crystal Skin and interrupt Crystal Hibernation.
Now all you need to do is /point and /laugh at Glint and mock her by comparing her to a tame little puppy.

Plus there is also the GC+Winter+MoF that we used to ran around with.

Orange Milk · Oct 30, 2008, 05:14 PM // 17:14

My account is over 31 months old. On the day I started my account I created a Ranger who now has 10 mil exp. This Ranger is the ONLY PvE character I've ever taken to level 20. I have a level 10 Necro and level 16 Ele, both for storage with less than 20 hours played on each of them. Now I do have 9 PvP Only slots full of other proffesions, but as far as PvE goes the Ranger is all I ever needed.

With the Expertise Attribute a Ranger can use any Matial weapon skill with ease, they also have the increased armor vs Elemental dmg. The ability to spread MAX degen quickly and of course interuption.

Versitility and survivability is very high in PvP for a Ranger, as is their demand.

In PvE there are plenty of solo farms they can do and I don't think I've ever been rejected from a group for being a Ranger.